I have expressed my views about Carole before. To deal with ‘scientific’ discussion as an example, it would seem that holders of the latter approach to debunk mediums like Carole, because the scientists cannot get evidential recordings of any phenomena, and therefore the latter does not exist. It seems evident to me that most humans have five senses for picking up information. So what we can detect is only what those five senses can detect. If some of us had more senses (joke), then we could presumably pick up more. But this is a conjecture.